Humility, authenticity, and relational safety are essential to truly trauma-informed care—yet many clinicians receive limited training in working with complex and relational trauma. In this powerful conversation, Dr. Ramani Durvasula will be joined by Kimberly Shannon Murphy (Hollywood stuntwoman, author, and trauma survivor) to explore Kimberly’s childhood experiences of trauma, family denial, and the damaging impact of antagonistic and narcissistic dynamics. They’ll discuss the critical need for therapists to be both trauma- and antagonism-informed, and reflect on Kimberly’s journey through therapy—what helped, what didn’t, and what her experience teaches us about gaps in trauma training and care.
You’ll learn:
Client-informed insights into what survivors need from therapy
The pitfalls of pressuring survivors toward forgiveness
Practical strategies for integrating trauma- and antagonism-informed approaches into clinical practice
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Ramani Durvasula, PhD is a psychologist in California, the founder and CEO of LUNA Education, Training and Consulting, and professor emerita of psychology at California State University Los Angeles. She is The New York Times bestselling author of It’s Not You: Identifying and Healing from Narcissistic People. She is also the author of multiple other books including ”Don’t You Know Who I Am”: How to Stay Sane in the Era of Narcissism, Entitlement and Incivility and Should I Stay or Should I Go: Surviving a Relationship with a Narcissist. She has lectured and trained therapists around the world on best practices on working with clients experiencing narcissistic abuse and has developed a 36 hour virtual training and certification program in conjunction with PESI to train clinicians on how to use an antagonism-informed approach with clients experiencing narcissistic relationships.
Dr. Durvasula hosts a popular YouTube channel with over 2 million subscribers, maintains a program offering support and education to thousands of survivors, and is a featured expert on the digital media platform MedCircle. She also maintains an engaged online network called the Dr. Ramani Network. She has also been widely involved in the governance of the American Psychological Association, including the APA Leadership Institute for Women in Psychology and the APA Minority Fellowship Program. Dr. Durvasula received her MA and PhD degrees in clinical psychology from UCLA and completed her internship and post-doctoral training at the UCLA Department of Psychiatry. She completed her Bachelor of Science degree in psychology, with a minor in sociology in 1988 at the University of Connecticut. She resides in Los Angeles, CA.
Speaker Disclosures:
Financial: Ramani Durvasula is the founder and CEO of LUNA Education, Training, and Consulting and has an employment relationship with the University of Johannesburg. Ramani Durvasula receives royalties as a published author. She receives a speaking honorarium and recording royalties from Psychotherapy Networker and PESI, Inc. She has no relevant financial relationships with ineligible organizations.
Non-financial: Ramani Durvasula is an associate editor for Behavioral Medicine. She is a member of the American Psychological Association, the Association for Psychological Science Society for Behavioral Medicine, and the International Association of Applied Psychology.
Kimberly Shannon Murphy is a leading Hollywood stuntwoman who has served as a double for numerous A-list actresses, performing in 133 feature films and television shows, including Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, Top Gun Maverick, Captain America, The Eternals, The Old Guard, Bird Box, The Hunger Games, The Lone Ranger, Salt, Enchanted, Marvel’s Agent Carter, Euphoria, Big Little Lies, and Westworld. A Taekwondo black belt, she received the 2020 Taurus World Stunt Award for Best Fight in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. She is a two-time Screen Actors Guild Award winner for Best Stunt Ensemble and has been recognized with numerous award nominations, and since 2018, has also worked as a stunt coordinator. Kimberly currently lives in Los Angeles with her husband, second unit director and stunt coordinator Casey O’Neill, whom she met on the set of Knight and Day when the two were doubling for the film’s stars, Cameron Diaz and Tom Cruise. They have a nine- year-old daughter, Capri.
Speaker Disclosures:
Financial: Kimberly Shannon Murphy receives royalties as a published author. She is a speaking honorarium from PESI, Inc. She has no relevant financial relationships with ineligible organizations.
Non-financial: Kimberly Shannon Murphy has no relevant non-financial relationships.
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Antagonistic and Narcissistic Dynamics in Trauma
Intersection of Complex Trauma and Antagonistic Relationships
Navigating Forgiveness in Complex Trauma Healing
Clinical Applications and Takeaways
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