As providers we are often taught that curiosity is a value worth cultivating in ourselves, that is a pro-social virtue that promotes growth, learning, and connection. But in work with erotically marginalized populations, such as trans and non-binary clients, curiosity can have a shadow side, and it can often be deployed in such a way that it replicates, however unconsciously, dynamics of oppression.
As philosopher Perry Zurn writes, trans and non-binary folx “consistently experience themselves as the object of” cis folx’s curiosity, and often at the hands of providers. Through lecture, case study, brainstorming, and discussion, this recording will introduce the concept of ethical curiosity, a model of relating and being-with as providers that respects and empowers our trans and non-binary clients and dismantles an entitlement to know!
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| File type | File name | Number of pages | |
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| Transcript - Ethical Curiosity with Trans and Non-Binary Clients (15.8 MB) | 15 Pages | Available after Purchase | |
| Transcript - Ethical Curiosity with Trans and Non-Binary Clients - French (15.8 MB) | 15 Pages | Available after Purchase | |
| Transcript - Ethical Curiosity with Trans and Non-Binary Clients - Italian (15.8 MB) | 15 Pages | Available after Purchase |
Lucie Fielding, PhD, MA, LMHC, (she/they) is a white, neurodivergent queer, trans misogyny affected (TMA) femme, and a therapist practicing in Virginia and Washington (on Monacan lands and unceded Duwamish territory, respectively). They specialize in sex therapy, kink-knowledgeable therapy, 2SLGBTQIA-knowledgeable therapy, sex work-affirming therapy; and they work from the narrative, imaginal, and somatic frameworks that honor the (intergenerational) wisdom of the body, promote community-care, and support empowered embodied eroticism. She holds an MA in Counseling Psychology from Pacifica Graduate Institute (2018) and a PhD in French from Northwestern University (2008), specializing in erotic literature. Their background in literature attunes them to the ways that cultural scripts inscribe themselves on our bodies and inform our embodied erotic lives. In addition to being a therapist, Lucie is a sex educator who has facilitated workshops for a range of groups, organizations, universities, and agencies. They are the author of Trans Sex: Clinical Approaches to Trans Sexualities and Erotic Embodiments (2021), which was awarded an AASECT BookAward (Lammy) in the Transgender-Nonfiction category. You can find out more about Lucie at luciefielding.com or follow them on Instagram (@sexbeyondbinaries).
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